Well I’ve been told that Emei Baguazhang can be kind of “Wushu-ish” in its modern incarnations. But alot of publically taught Bagua styles. Baguazhang is one of the three main Chinese martial arts of the Wudang school, the other two . Liang Shou-yu, Yang Jwing-Ming, Wu Wen-Ching, “Baguazhang : Emei Baguazhang Theory and Applications” ^ Frank Allen, Tina Chunna. Emei Shan, (mountain) is one of the most renowned Buddhist and Daoist sanctuaries in China. The mountain is located in the basin of emei Sichuan Province.
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Theory, practice and applications. Please stay on topic. Does anyone have any gaguazhang with this style, or is it just me? Since i’m self taught except for a few weeks of training in another baguazhang style that i really didn’t care too much for maybe someone could give me some pointers to what i might be doing wrong with the 8-palms form. I’m still playing around with my webcam to get some clips of myself doing the basic 8-palms exercise.
Which i thought was really annoying at first, but after watching it a couple times, it almost seemed cute. Either way i never finished the 8-palms sequence the only sequence i know But alot of baguazhag taught Bagua styles nowdays are. I can’t see the clip or download the zip. Just looking at the basic 8 palms set, i don’t see that the majority of the martial applications are very effective. I have started learning the Swimming Body routine, and it seems a lot more direct and usefull.
Less flowery than the basic 8 palms. It’s really too bad there isn’t much in the way of baguazhang resources online except for amazon. It really does seem like a very good art to learn. Yang and Liang Shou made? I’ve looked all over the place, and it doesn’t seem to be a very popular style.
He was probably self taught also but we did stepping practice and had started what I think is spelled “san sau” training. He was our taiji instructor and liked to bagkazhang us interested with other martail techniques.
It was aout four years ago and I’ve long since moved house to live in Dublin This was the only contact I’ve had with the style and you lot are correct, there does’nt seem to be to many people practising this form. I did not think Dr. Yang would put out any thing that was not traditional and authentic. Yang does not release anything but traditional, authentic arts, traced back to their root. This DVD is the real deal.
Master Liang trained with his grandfather, who was a famous grandmaster himself, at Emei mountain starting at 6 years old. Master Liang has trained for decades in contemporary Wushu, baguazang it has thus become part of his personal style, impacting all that he does.
Try imagining his Bagua sequences in higher stances, and I doubt it will seem as “wushu-ish”. Also, bear in mind that this is not mainstream Baguazhang, but Emei Baguazhang. The lineage is very different and often debatedand whether or not it was before or after Dong Hai-Chuan’s time, Emei Bagua branched off into Sichuan province and developed emeo independantly, hence why the movements, while still retaining the same core concepts, have a significantly different flavour at times from other Bagua styles.
Such is my understanding of the matter. On another note, huzzah! I’m eagerly awaiting my copy of the DVD to go with that big fat tome of poems and explanations that I bought last year.
Its been said that training with a master while studying materials at home makes progress faster and fuller, I guess I’ll find out for sure, as I plan on enrolling at the SYL institute in the early new year. I’ll be doing wushu and sanshou for a solid year to develop a good athletic foundation, and then moving into the internal arts program.
Thanks everyone for writing about it, and patiently waiting for its release. Towering over the fertile Sichuan plains, it rises steeply to 10, feet, and its western cliffs overlook the great Tibetan Plateau. Emei is a rain forest and home to thousands of rare plants, wild animals and herbs which are used for medicine.
Throughout its sacred existence, Emei has produced a number of outstanding sages who have brought beacons of enlightenment to the world in Asian history. At the “Jin Ding” or “Golden Summit” Monastery, the Taoist priest meditated and fasted, as spiritual masters guided his path toward wisdom and enlightenment.
When he broke fast, he took the name “Bai Yun” or “White Cloud.
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Buddhism, Shamanism, Acupuncture, herbal medicine, Taoist Qigong, Pranayana Yoga, aura diagnosis and treatment, iron body, martial arts and more. This system bagkazhang devoted to maintaining excellent health and treating diseases and ailments, while striving to attain the goal of enlightenment on higher planes.
The Maha Bodhisattva, a great spirit which embodies the mountain, told Master Bai Yun in a pure baguszhang, to take these teachings and pass them down lineage to lineage, master to master, in order to help future generations. Master Bai Yun chronicled this sacred knowledge in a book called, “The Emei Treasured Lotus Canon,” lest it be forgotten or misinterpreted.
The system remained at the Golden Summit Monastery for seven hundred years. In the ‘s, Master Yong Nian, the 10th generation grandmaster, was at the bottom of Mount Emei gathering herbs for medicine when he met an army general who was also a trained medical doctor.
General Zhou Quan Chuan, had a nervous disorder bagkazhang his health was deteriorating. Master Ying Nian befriended the general, treating and curing his baguzahang. Overwhelmed with joy and gratitude, the general decided to leave smei his responsibilities and serve this great man who had restored his health. During 13 years of service to Master Yong Nian the former general earnestly expressed his desire to become a monk.
Master Yong Nian refused. The Master, through dreams and meditation, envisioned devastation coming to Emei Abguazhang and his temple from the terrible civil war that was raging in China. He made a daring decision which included the former general. The Master ordained a new way of passing on the lineage: In this way, the Emei Qigong system could leave the mountain and spread among the masses through the laymen.
Then, it would return to a Buddhist monk for purification. Zhou Quan Chuan became the first layman to receive the title of Emei Qigong grandmaster. He healed and taught the public quietly along his path, in order to avoid becoming involved with the civil war. After a number of years of studying, Abbot Ju Zan became the 12th Grandmaster of the prestigious emwi system. The title now passed on to a monk, ejei to Grandmaster Nian’s vision.
When China’s Cultural Revolution began, Grandmaster Ju Zan was imprisoned for eight years, as the Communists cleansed China of all religious influence.
In prison, he meditated and saw the future of Emei Qigong. The future was a young man named Fu Wei Zhong who began his training on the day he was born in the year His uncle, who was a Buddhist monk, cared for him as a child.
When he reached six years of age, he began his training in Chinese medicine, Qigong, internal alchemy and the martial arts.
He began treating patients at the age of twelve under his grandfather’s guidance. At age eighteen he became a fully recognized doctor and, because of his popularity, quickly opened his own practice. Even though his main concern and training were in the treatment of human suffering, he diligently mastered the martial arts of Xing Yi and Ba Gua by the age of sixteen. Throughout Fu Wei Zhong’s childhood he had a recurring dream about a monk he had never met who would change his life.
When the revolution ended Fu Wei Zhong returned home and Grandmaster Ju Zan was released from prison and returned to his temple. As they entered the temple, Fu instantly recognized the Abbot to be the monk in his childhood dream. Now, it is time for you to start your training. In answer to Grandmaster Ju Zan’s direction, “Emei comes from the people; now, let it serve the people,” Master Fu went into retreat.
This became the starting point of Grandmaster Fu Wei Zhong’s public mission. He studied the Emei Treasure Lotus Canon and developed a new format to teach the system in a manner which would suit the fast pace of modern life. Currently, the Lotus Canon, along with the sacred bowl and staff, are preserved at a Beijing Museum.
Grandmaster Fu believed that only by training thousands of skilled Emei Qigong practitioners, would it be possible for millions to restore and preserve their health. He initiated the first “Qigong therapy system” at Beijing Hospital and, as a result, he is regarded as the “Father of External Qi therapy. I have not seen 1 movement in Bagua that does not have a practical and deadly application. In Bagua I also dont think the applications are as noticable when you walk the circle as some of the applications in Taiji.
It looks pretty to do, but circle walking is very deadly. Then theres also the needle technique and the towel technique, which are in Bagua and I hope to incorporate into my Taijiquan practice. I do not doubt Grandmaster Shou yu Liang is a “master” and a “traditionalist”, but from what my teacher taught me, either Shouyu Liang or his teacher or their teacher, etc.
For example, after the double strike to temple, theres a turn and a double groins strike. Then after fan through back theres a downward punch to the lower dantian. Im sure it may also be the same with the Bagua, but I cant honestly say cuz I havent seen the video yet. There are some good Bagua videos on youtube, you just have to look for them. Liang has not modified it, and he teaches it WITH applications.
Tremendous efforts were put into promoting Taijiquan. It was the result of many Taijiquan masters working towards standardizing and simplifying Taijiquan, for use as a health promoting exercise. Many emfi the more complicated and repeated movements were deleted from the long form for ease of learning and practicing. The sequence starts off with very simple movements and gradually becomes more complicated. It consists of 20 different postures from the Yang Style Long Sequence.
Three of the postures are done on both left and right sides, and one of the postures repeats itself, making a total of 24 postures.
I am aware what the 24 movement form is.